Fitting In [tg, wg]

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Re: Fitting In [tg, wg]

Postby pinkhippo99 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:53 am

The way I understand how the ring works, is that it creates a glamor around the user so that anything they say or do becomes acceptable. You can behave as rude as you want and people will still behave as if you are the most lovable person they have ever met. But the way it does this seems to be not to change your behavior, or even make people hear what you say different. Instead, it recontextualizes your behavior. It takes the idea of "fitting in" to mean molding you into someone who could get away with more in the same circumstances. This is why all of Taylor's coworkers behaved as if he were already a large girl even before he started physically changing. It was because now when he makes a rude joke about large girls, its not a sexist comment from a skinny man, but self deprecating humor from one of their peers. Also, it seems to never compel you to do anything. It slowly changes your body and behavior to fit the perception that it is already laying onto people, but it cannot force you to change how you dress or behave. Instead, it compels those around you to "suggest" these changes, while at the same time reducing the glamor so that you have to do as the ring wants to get the same instantly popular effect.

One thing I'd like to see more of that your haven't addressed very well so far is why Taylor is still using the ring even after he changed locations. I'd imagine it would be because he has become addicted its power. Using the ring for so long has probably made his already problematic lack of tact even worse from having to go months without any filter, to the point where he regularly says things which would likely get him fired without the ring. I'd like to see him struggle a bit more with wanting to not use the ring, especially now that his larger fingers are making it harder to take off and he has probably considered that it will soon reach the point where he can no longer change back.

Also, I'd like to see how the ring's power changes based on his new job. The ring seemed to make him a fat women because it was the easiest way to get his old coworkers to like him and overlook his flaws. How would that work now that he is in an environment with mostly men? Maybe the reason his new boss is letting him get away with the same behavior is because the ring is turning him into an object of sexual desire. It could start to compel him to dress in more revealing women's clothing, wear heavier makeup, and start adopting feminine grooming habits like shaving. This could in tern lead to his coworkers openly flirting with him, making suggestive comments or accentually touching him in inappropriate ways. Given how his female form is starting to make him more emotional, I could see this behavior leading him to go back to Torrid, even if it means giving up the job he worked so hard for.

The addition of Emily and the pen creates a lot of opportunities. Taylor could have a confidant now, someone whom he could share his experience with and talk about his problems. Maybe the ring will compel Taylor to try and date her, with her friends from work suggesting that she just come out and "admit being gay" the way they suggested wearing makeup and such. You could even have Taylor use the pen at some point. Maybe he forgets to fill out an important stack of paperwork and needs to have it done in less time than it would actually take to finish or he forgets to study for a test. He could use the pen Emily shows him and instead of adding to his weight, it gives him a larger appetite and eating problems like Cynthia so that fat Taylor stays fat.

One idea for an ending could be that Emily and Taylor keep looking for the shop owner to change her back. Meanwhile, Taylor is finding it harder and harder to take off the ring. One day, it takes him so long to change back that he realizes he has maybe one or two uses out of it before he is stuck as a girl. However, that day he encounters the old man from the store, but the man is somewhere where Taylor can only get to by wearing the ring. He manages to convince him to change Emily back, but the old man reveals that Taylor has worn the ring long enough that the power has completely transferred from it to him. Even when he takes it off, the effects, for good and for bad, stay with him and Taylor has to get used to the fact that he is stuck as a very well liked fat girl.
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Re: Fitting In [tg, wg]

Postby Lamebrain » Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:49 pm

I do like the suggestions, thank you. The analysis on the ring is close but there are a few details I'll get more into when I eventually post the next few chapters.

I've been putting feelers out throughout my chapters of the story towards potential endings (Emily, the photograph, a bunch more). I've been wondering how receptive people are towards personality change elements so it's good to read fan suggestions like yours.

In terms of addressing why Taylor is still using the ring I do plan to give a more thorough explanation of the reasons, and the specifics as to how the ring works in future chapters. There is a plan, don't worry. It's more so just a general desire to gauge where you as fans hope the story goes and seeing if anything I am planning might annoy you.
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Re: Fitting In [tg, wg]

Postby Leviathan » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:56 pm

I agree with most of what pinkhippo said in regards to the nature of the ring, and also somewhat towards the next changes.

I interpreted the ring as being slightly more sinister, however. In addition to changing the MC's body to fit into his environment and to become what people around him want him to be, I think that it also influences the people around him in subtle ways. When he is not wearing it, it makes everything in his life go poorly, thereby forcing him to wear the ring just simply to avoid getting fired or being expelled from school. I think at this point, if he were to go a day without wearing it, it would be something like, "The worst day ever." Which makes me wonder if that might make a good chapter, at some point.

In regards to the changes and the current story, I would prefer seeing the ring take the changes in a new direction, rather than continue down the old Torrid path towards short and fat. I think something like a waifish goth with dark makeup and black hair, lots of piercings, perhaps even a tattoo.

From that perspective, my opinion is that this new job location is a new story or at least "book 2". The first story is imo finished at this point, and you should put those characters and changes to rest rather than going back to them. There are things I would have liked to have seen differently or just more of with the Torrid arc, but I think it's better to just move on and tell a new arc.

In regards to the girl friend, Emily, I feel she doesn't really fit the narrative. I spoke with Oldar in PMs several months ago and he said basically she was an idea for a separate story that he never got to write. He just jammed her into this one in order to play around with her. Personally I think her changes clash with the direction of the MC, and there's not really room in the story to do her properly...

However, I do think the MC needs a consistent friend, confidant, or perhaps even love interest. I actually feel this was a weakness in the original story. Some scenes were needed outside the context of the workplace. College (ie not flunking out) was one subplot that should continue, but we needed one more subplot with a love interest I think, in order to have some variety. The work environment and thus the main changes could change from book to book, but the other aspects of his life should continue to remain as subplots going forward.

As for a "proper ending" or the character getting stuck in a certain body, I don't think that matters, and I wouldn't go in that direction. The simple fact that his life would basically go to hell in a hand basket if he threw the ring away is already a form of stuckage. And that form of psychological prison is imo more interesting and effective than a physical prison.

Plus, I really like the idea of there being a book 3, 4, etc where the character moves to a new job each time, and undergoes a new set of changes each time. I suppose I would angle more for a story that could go on indefinitely, getting a relatively clean slate with each shift in location.
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Re: Fitting In [tg, wg]

Postby Lamebrain » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:11 pm

There is a sinister element about the ring I'll touch on at some point.

In terms of the direction the story is headed, I'll touch on the nature of Taylor's transformations at some point. I'm a little less interested in continuing the story "indefinitely" or removing the existing characters. I'd rather have a more decisive end especially for the people who have waited since the story's start for one rather than eventually rehash elements. Plus I feel like the joke of Taylor having to try on outfits would get dull after a while.

In the context of Emily, regardless I feel like it's a big loose end in the story that needs some kind of conclusion, which I have planned at some point. I also liked the character being in the story so I felt like reusing her. I like the cast of characters I have so far and I'm excited to use them in a few fun ways in some of the scenes I have planned. Don't worry the story is still continuing the themes of isolation and the push and pull of the Ring's influence on the main character's psyche.

I appreciate all of the suggestions though. I hope I don't come across as dismissive.
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Re: Fitting In [tg, wg]

Postby pinkhippo99 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:11 am

I do like the idea of pushing further into the personality change elements. Always a fan of those. In terms of what Leviathan said, having Taylor turn into a piercing covered goth is not necessarily mutually exclusive towards turning into the BBW he was becoming at Torrid. It might be fun to add a new wrinkle to the change.
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Re: Fitting In [tg, wg]

Postby BigNerd42Q » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:49 pm

please tell me this great story is not dead
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Re: Fitting In [tg, wg]

Postby Lamebrain » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:18 pm

Sorry I've been having trouble figuring out how to really end the story since everyone seemingly wants it to go in a different direction. I've been really conflicted.
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Re: Fitting In [tg, wg]

Postby BigNerd42Q » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:26 pm

Lamebrain you don't need to apologize it's not your fault even the best writer can get conflicted and unfortunately you won't be able to satisfy everybody but ultimately it's up to you how to proceed
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Re: Fitting In [tg, wg]

Postby Vended » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:20 pm

It start so nice, slow and detailled. I'm kinda bummed it switch into weight gain.
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Re: Fitting In [tg, wg]

Postby manstein » Wed May 16, 2018 12:34 pm

Any news about the story continuation ? Thanks.
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